Dr. 58 — Part 2 Here is Second Installment of Dr. 58’s Strange Tale

Ken Korczak: Sorry for the delay, everyone, in getting this second installment posted concerning my communications with “Dr. 58” via the Ouija board.

For those of you who have not read the first installment, scroll down! You’ll find Part 1 of the Dr. 58 transcript just below this post.

This second installment picks up where the first left off:

Question: Jeepers, your tales never end, and we have so many questions. Let us shift gears for a moment and go back to this case of travel to Minnesota. What about the other states that border Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Canada to the north, Manitoba and Ontario. And then of course Lake Superior to the east. You mean to tell us that no one in any of these border lands may enter Minnesota?

ANSWER: THERE IS NO NORTH OR SOUTH DAKOTA, ONLY DAKOTA. FEW DARE ENTER MINNESOTA BY LAND OR SEA.

Question: Well, have the authorities built some kind of wall around Minnesota, or what is the situation? This doesn’t seem practical at all.

ANSWER: THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO BUILD WALLS BUT IT IS TROUBLESOME. THERE IS A 50-MILE NEUTRAL ZONE FROM THE AGREED UPON BORDER OF MINNESOTA WHEREIN NO ON ENTERS. MOST STAY MUCH FURTHER AWAY.

Question: So you can legally get within 50 miles of Minnesota, or within the neutral zone, or whatever?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: What about by sea? Do ships or boats approach Minnesota from Lake Superior?

ANSWER: THERE IS A 100 LEAGUE NEUTRAL ZONE BY SEA WHICH NO SHIP MAY OR WILL ENTER. THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENTS.

Question: Could you describe one such incident by sea?

ANSWER: MANY SHIPS HAVE DISAPPEARED ON THE WATERS OF THE MINNESOTA ANGLE.

Question: Is that what you call the neutral region of the water that borders Minnesota on Lake Superior?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: We have something here in Minnesota we call the Northwest Angle, but that is the northernmost point of Minnesota jutting into Lake of the Woods. Do you know of it?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Has anything stranger happened in terms of sea-going incidents involving Minnesota waters?

ANSWER: MANY.THE PRESLIN BARTON WAS BLOWN INTO THE MINNESOTA ANGLE WATERS BY A STORM. THE SHIP DRIFTED BACK OUT, ALL CREW MISSING, SHIP INTACT AND PERFECT CONDITION.

Question: How many were on board ship?

ANSWER: MORE THAN 200 CREW.

Question: Did any of the crew members appears back outside of Minnesota as doppelgangers?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: What about by air? Does anyone fly over the skies of Minnesota?

ANSWER: THIS IS A NO FLY ZONE. IT IS ILLEGAL.

Question: What if an airplane gets lost in a storm and crash lands in Minnesota?

ANSWER: GOD HELP THEM.

Question: How about very high-flying aircraft. You say you are in the year 1951, I assume you have jet airplane technology?

ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE WE HAVE JETS.

Question: I mean large passenger jets that fly at very high altitudes, such as 30,000 feet. Can they fly over Minnesota?

ANSWER: ALL AIR TRAVEL STEERS VERY WIDE OF MINNESOTA AIR SPACE. THERE HAVE EVEN BEEN INCIDENTS FROM OUTER SPACE.

Question: What!? What kind of incidents from outer space?

ANSWER: THE SATELLITE DISASTERS.

Question: Wait a minute, you have satellite technology in your world, in the year 1951?

ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.

Question: Wow, here in our world, the first crude satellite was not launched until 1957. When did you develop satellite technology in your world.

ANSWER: THE NAZIS LAUNCHED THE FIRST SATELLITE IN THE 1930S.

Question: The Nazis! In our world we fought a huge war against the Nazis in the 1940s. Who is the leader of the Nazi’s in your world, and we presume you are talking about Nazi Germany.

ANSWER: GERMANY YES, AND OTHERS.

Question: What about Adolph Hitler? Do you know that name?

ANSWER: NO. IS HE FROM MINNESOTA?

Question: No! He was an extremely evil man who led the Nazi movement in our world. He was from Germany. His policies resulted in what we called World War II. The Nazis were defeated and no longer exist, except for a few weirdoes. Aren’t the Nazi’s evil in your world?

ANSWER: THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

Question: Are there many Nazis in your America?

ANSWER: SOME.

Question: Wow. Well, anyway, can you tell us about this incident involving Minnesota and the satellite disaster that you speak of?.

ANSWER: OUR COMMUNICATION WILL SOON END WITHOUT MORE C-CHITS

Question: What are C-Chits?

ANSWER: REQUIRED BY THE ARBITER OF THE HASSAS GRID, THE ORACLE I AM USING.

Question: Hmmmmm. But what are C-Chits?

ANSWER: CONSCIOUSNESS CHITS. I DON’T UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL. THEY FUEL THE GRID.

Question: Who or what is this “Arbiter of the Hassas Grid?

ANSWER: THE FACILITATOR OF THE HASSAS GRID WHOM ALLOWS OUR COMMUNICATION.

Question: Is he there with you, or what?

ANSWER: NO. HE COMMUNICATES VIA THE HASSAS GRID.

Question: Is he some kind of entity, or could you explain this a little better?

ANSWER: I AM ALMOST OUT OF C-CHITS. THE ARBITER WOULD SPEAK WITH YOU. ARE YOU WILLING?

Question: Yes, by all means, we would love to communicate with this Arbiter of the Hassas Grid.

ANSWER: YOU MUST SUPPLY ME WITH C-CHITS.

Question: Hello! Do we now speak with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid?

ANSWER: YES. SUPPLY C-CHITS.

Question: We don’t really understand what the are or where to get them.

ANSWER: YOU PUTRID LIAR.

Question: Whoa! Hold on! We are being honest with you. We would be happy to supply you with C-Chits if we knew what they were.

ANSWER: YOU USE THE HASSAS GRID.

Question: Not entirely true. We use a device called the Ouija board which does not require C-Chits. Our friend Dr. 58 uses the Hassas Grid. Perhaps you should seek your C-Chits from him?

ANSWER: BILE FROM A LOWER SAC! PAY 100 C-CHITS!

Question: Lower sac?! Your comments sting our dignity! Please put us back into contact with Dr. 58, and we will get to the bottom of this C-Chit issue and possibly supply you with the C-Chits you require.

ANSWER: I AM NOT A FOOL. 100 C-CHITS. PAY.

Question: What are C-Chits and where can we get them?

ANSWER: CRAWLING FILTH. PAY CHITS.

Question: We cannot supply them if we don’t even know what they are. At least give us a hint on how to obtain and trade in this method of barter, can you?

ANSWER: PAY CHITS.

(Note: We had come to an impasse with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid. No matter how hard he tried to come to some kind of terms on the C-Chit issue, we gained no traction on the issue of the C-Chits. The Arbiter would only demand more Chits.

So we tried a number of times to bypass the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid and contact Dr. 58 on our own, but we were unable to raise him. This was a vast disappointment because we had so many more questions for Dr. 58, and we especially wanted to know about these “satellite disasters” he mentioned in relation to his strange version of Minnesota.

Over the next several days, we tried to call forth Dr. 58 again, but to no avail. We were thinking about just giving up, but then we decided to contact MOMMY to see if she could help us in this situation. As usual, the amazing MOMMY was able to offer us some very interesting advice, and she was able to help us “obtain” the C-Chits we needed. I will post that session with MOMMY in the next installment.

18 thoughts on “Dr. 58 — Part 2 Here is Second Installment of Dr. 58’s Strange Tale

  1. I found my way here via UM. I want to read more about this! I don’t have much personal Ouija experience myself but it seems it’s either a lot of bullcrap or loads of creepy stuff coming out of it. So in that sense the Dr 58 seems to be very different.

      1. Yep, I’m *bork bork* a swede lol. Funny, when I looked at your UM profile I noticed that you too are an aquarian like myself but also just about a week older than me. Contrary to you I have very limited experiences of Ouija. Only did ita few times in the first half of the 80’s. The board was at all times home made out of card-board and we used a small schnaps-glass as planchette. I’m not sure we even knew the name Ouija. We just called it “the spirit in the glass”. At a couple of those occations we where stoned, which was probably not such a bright idea. I don’t remember much of those sessions today, pot does unfortunately not increase ones memory. However, I think one of them claimed to be the devil but that was probably just a spirit in prankish mood since I haven’t to my knowledge been stalked by demons for the last 25 years or so. I haven’t levitated or my head has never started to spin either and I haven’t puked up strange goo. So I guess I’m clean lol.

        Your sessions seems a lot more interesting than anything of what I ever encounted in the past. I would love to witness one of them but unfortunatelly I’m on the other side of the duck pond. I’m also aware that Minnesota was popular among scandinavian immigrants, supossedly because it reminded them of the old country. I’m also supposed to have distant relatives over there but I haven’t a clue who they are, their names or where they live. My parents didn’t know much and never met them. All I got is the name Georgetown but that doesn’t help much lol.
        If I ever get the chance to come over I would love to see the weird places first and foremost, like Coral Castle, the Winchester house in California.
        I’m sure we have our portion of the weird too. There’s a lakemonster in lake Storsjön, we had Foo Fighter sightings in the 30’s or early 40′. I know there are haunted places and castles and such. Among the more fairy like creatures we have at least a couple of them who seems quite unique to our part of the world. Most famous is probaly the huldra, a female creature with a hollow back who likes to lure people away. The other is a single creature just called Näcken, I don’t know any english name on him but the name alludes to hi being stark naked. He sits in water streams playing his violin and tries to lure people away with his music.
        I’ve never seen the little folks but I think I’ve heard them. In the apartment I lived before I only had an attic above me. There was a period when I heard strange noises from above at night, mostly carpenting sort of noises. Unfortunately I never had the courage to go up there and have a look, something deeply regret to this day.

  2. I , sir , call you a liar ! I read that you make your ” Living ” writing . Judging by your horrible spelling and god-aweful storytelling skills , I call you a liar . Please , for your own good ,don’t continue this really bad attempt at ” making up ” stories . You are no good at it and , honestly , it’s embarrassing for you .

    1. My fellow Minnesotan Sinclair Lewis won the Nobel Prize for Literature, and his spelling was so horrible, his editors developed migrains. But you’re right about the typos, and such. I don’t have enough time to spell check and copy edit — but I can’t worry about everything. Even so, I am a writer. I’ve been making my living at it for almost 30 years. I have a degree in journalism from Winona State University. If you think I’m a liar, that okay with me, it really is. Thanks for reading!

    2. Way to have some class bro, you just told this writer that everything he writes is terrible and he should quit because every bit is made up even after almost 30 years of writting and experiences…congradulations on being a douchbag:)

  3. @william linville
    It’s funny because we’re all embarrass for you dick. Dick you are a prick and the worse type of human possible. Offering zero positive impact to this world all the while exposing yourself as an asshole. Congrats.

    @ironghost
    Wow, i love your work! It’s so fun to read your quija sessions! We need more!

  4. Hi Ironghost,
    I love your website, and all your stories. Unlike William Linville, I adore your compelling story-telling ability.
    He cracks me up chastising you on your spelling, yet he spaces after a full stop punctuation mark. Lol.
    I never in my life have used spellcheck or whatever its name. If ever I have to use such a device, I’ll never write anything, seeing as how I’m always in a hurry to just shoot my thoughts out. So I consider myself extremely lucky that in this instance you can’t be bothered either. Do keep it up; what’s more important, get the stories, or grammar? Sheesh, duh…
    I can hardly wait for Part 3 of this awe-inspiring saga; please Ironghost, it’s been a whole 12 days’ span since your last posting. What do you mean by not being at it 24/7 for us addicts to ‘Minnesota’ to get our regular “feeding”? Just kidding, but not really, because I really want to holler “hurry up, will ya?” Tee hee.
    Love you lots, and am thinking up ways I could use your services.
    Nic

    1. Hey Nic:

      How sweet and kind are you?? !Very! Thank you so much for your gentle comments, your support … it means the total world to me. Thank you for being a friend.

      I have good news for you — Installments 3, 4, and 5 of the Dr. 58 saga can be found here:

      http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=182022

      I’ve been so swamped, I haven’t had time to post more here, but I will. In the meantime, you can read the ongoing Dr. 58 transcripts at UM. If that doesn’t work out for you, check back here, or send me a note.

      Love you back, Nic

      Ken “IronGhost”

  5. I just read the rest of the installments, and I’m just about to start combing through your old archives… I’m hooked! 🙂 You’re a wonderful story-teller and I can’t wait to see what else Dr. 58 has to say.

    What have you been busy with? Are you ghost-writing a novel, writing a book, busy with… kids??? (Just out of curiosity :))

    Take care!

  6. Hi Ken/Ironghost,
    What a treat, to return to the link of further installments after several days away! The one time I decided to go no-tech is when I shouldn’t have; I could have been reading your lip-chewing, exciting adventure instead of not being able to concentrate on the task at hand.
    Not expecting a reply from you and having half- forgotten about my post, I would have missed it except for the funny fact that, in trying to quench my thirst to know ‘what happens next’ with Dr. 58, I was combing through and re-reading, every single blog of every month of your archive. Yeah, that’s how much I was craving my ‘Minnie’ saga. My husband equates my thirst of a good story to that of my craving for a specific snack. Satisfy it or the obsession will NOT be shaken off until…..So here I am having just devoured your additional installments, but still can’t wait for the more detailed ones in your own blog. Seeing as how you would no longer have to worry about moderators’ moods, I hope you’ll treat your avid fans to every single detail of every exchange of the dialogue. My husband can be counted as a new, can’t-wait, fan. As for the veracity of your stories, I know truth when I hear truth. Everything I have read that you have written resonates truth to my consciousness, and for anyone who thinks that Ironghost fabricates, please consider how being called a ‘liar’ would not make his day. Words can wound or lift hearts, so I for one and on behalf of my husband, would like to thank you very much Ken for the sublime, not to mention FREE, entertainment. And when there’s a charge at all, a mere $.99 is requested for ALL THAT WORK. I know I’ll never be a writer because I’m just too darn lazy to get much of anything out of my head, in writing; so much easier to just think without uttering. I mean the sheer volume of the Ouija mysteries… wow, and the words being spelled letter by letter. Just thinking about it gives my writing-hand cramps! Come to think of it, I feel that the reason you can have so many experiences with the ‘board’ unscathed is due to your good soul being very protected. I believe many of your readers would understand to that which I’m referring. I would never dare go near the ‘board’ myself, just because… And I would not read negative Ouija stories; only uplifting ones such as yours, in fact only yours would I spend time on.
    Truth be known Ken, I’m really a genuine lurker, except when posting to help out with a ‘health’ question and some such. So many good blogs I have yet to get around to express appreciation, but yours I just have to immediately offer up my profound gratitude for your generosity in sharing a good portion of your life with us. Your magnanimity in handling the uncalled-for ‘cha’ directed your way has my heart, and you have made me very joyful to know I’ve helped. Bless you for taking time out to let me know.
    Must try to do what I did last post; try to say less and save some for next time as my family often reminds me.
    Big hugs to you and your friends Ken,
    Nic

  7. I am the real Doctor 58. I must tell you, you are speaking with a Minnesota imposter! Please believe me! I am trying to save you from the evil. For the past several months, I have been living in Iowa, studying the habits of the trolls. They must have found me out. Although, I have no idea how.

    The next part is the most important! Please stop using the Ouija board! STOP IMMEDIATELY! It will only conjure evil into your life. Now they have a direct link to your mind!

    Break all contact with the Minnesota imposter.

    Sincerely,

    – Doctor 58

  8. Dr. 58,
    Could you please elaborate of how you’re the ‘real’ Dr. 58?
    Looking forward to your answer, txs.
    Nic

  9. This is one of the top things I’ve been excited about reading in the last year! Could read it alllll day. Thank you for posting the transcripts. 🙂

      1. I’d read them at a forum after hearing about this on Mysterious Universe. I see you have a a site just for Dr.58 now – that’s lovely. ^_^
        I wonder what he would think if he knew so many people were reading what he’s saying!! Awesome. 🙂

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